Hosted by Andrew Keen, Keen On features conversations with some of the world’s leading thinkers and writers about the economic, political, and technological issues being discussed in the news, right now.

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In this episode Andrew is joined by Theodore R. Johnson, the author of When the Stars Begin to Fall: Overcoming Racism and Renewing the Promise of America, to discuss why racism is a structural crime of the state and how recognizing that a color-conscious society—not a color-blind one—is the true fulfillment of the American Promise.

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Theodore R. Johnson is the director of the Fellows Program at the Brennan Center for Justice. His work explores the role that race plays in electoral politics, issue framing, and disparities in policy outcomes. Previously, he was a national fellow at New America and a research manager at Deloitte. He is also a retired commander in the U.S. Navy following a two-decade career that included service as a White House fellow, military professor at the U.S. Naval War College, and speechwriter to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

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