André Alexis on Martha Baillie’s There Is No Blue
In Conversation with Michael Kelleher for the Windham-Campbell Prizes Podcast
The Windham-Campbell Prizes Podcast features a series of conversations with past and present Windham-Campbell Prize winners about their favorite books and plays. Hosted by Michael Kelleher.
André Alexis (winner of a 2017 Windham Campbell Prize for Fiction) joins Michael Kelleher to kick off the 2025 winter season of the podcast with a vibrant discussion of Martha Baillie’s memoir, There Is No Blue. TW: the book and this episode include discussion of suicide and abuse.
For a full episode transcript, click here.
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Reading list:
There Is No Blue by Martha Baillie • The Search for Heinrich Schlögel by Martha Baillie • Falling Hour by Geoffrey D. Morrison • Finnegans Wake by James Joyce
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From the episode:
André Alexis: The book itself concentrates on house and room, which is why it’s so beautiful to end with the final poem, with the idea of small changes changing the way a room looks, changing the way a room feels. The book itself is an illustration of that and how things change within a house, within a family, based on whether the father sexually molested the sister or not. The effort to,come to terms with someone who won’t sit still, who in fact keeps changing, so that there is only the adjustment. I mean, one of the interesting ironies about the final poem, small changes, is it’s really lovely to imagine that a small change can in fact influence how you feel about a room. But if you push that just a little bit further so that there is only constant changing, what does the room become?
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André Alexis was born in Trinidad and grew up in Canada. His novel, Fifteen Dogs, won the 2015 Scotiabank Giller Prize and the Rogers Writers’ Trust Fiction Prize. His debut novel, Childhood, won the Books in Canada First Novel Award, the Trillium Book Award, and was shortlisted for the Giller Prize and the Writers’ Trust Fiction Prize. His other books include Pastoral (nominated for the Rogers Writers’ Trust Fiction Prize), Asylum, Beauty and Sadness, Ingrid & the Wolf, Despair and Other Stories of Ottawa, and Lambton, Kent and Other Vistas: A Play. His new book, Other Worlds: Stories, is out from FSG in May.
The Windham-Campbell Prizes Podcast is a program of The Windham-Campbell Prizes, which are administered by Yale University Library’s Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library.