• Natalie Koch Untangles the Weirdly Connected Environmental Fates of Arizona and Saudi Arabia

    In Conversation with Andrew Keen on Keen On

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    In this episode, Andrew talks to Arid Empire author Natalie Koch about the weirdly entangled fates of Arizona and Saudi Arabia.

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    Natalie Koch is a Professor in the Department of Geography and the Environment at Syracuse University. She is a political geographer specializing in the Gulf and Arabian Peninsula region, where she has worked since 2012.


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